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Many thanks to Kees Kort for

his clarifications and comments.

AIRCRAFTS

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CAPRONI

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Giovanni Battista 

Comment of Kees Kort

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In the new numbering

of Caproni dating from 1937 this is the Caproni Ca.53,

a small triplane light bomber dating from slightly after the 1914-18 war.

 

The span of the wings was 14,30 meter, actually quite small for Caproni standards.

 

Original construction with

a fighter like fuselage, triplane wings with single struts and a four-bladed propeller driven by

an engine rated

at 350 - 500 hp.


As there was no need for this machine after the war

it was only built as a single prototype.

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the gentleman with the big mustache is Mr. Caproni, himself.

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Giovanni Battista Caproni

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Caproni triplane for day bombardment [Fiat 700 hp motor] undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Giovanni Battista Caproni

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Italian Floatplane Caproni I ca ca1911

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

Comment of Kees Kort

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IIn the background of

the group with

Gianni Caproni and high brass from Italy and USA

is a big Caproni Triplane

at that time identified as

the Ca.4

(original identification).

 

The code N-531 gives away that this is one of six machines delivered to

the Royal Navy Air Service (RNAS) of England.

 

It is known that acceptance testing for this machine

(N-531) started on

13 March 1918.

 

So the date of the event -

a visit of a USA delegation - was later than

13 March 1918.

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Giovanni Battista Caproni

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Military officials at the Caproni factory, Italy ca1916

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Caproni aircraft arriving at the Aviation Experimental Station, Hampton, VA Sept. 8 1917

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG:111; American Military Activities

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Caproni Ca-3 ready for take-off at Aviation Experiment Station, Hampton VA - Sept. 11, 1917 NARA111-SC-003724-ac

Source of Photograph: National Archives RG:111; American Military Activities

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Caproni CA-3 takingoff at AES, Hampton VA 9-11-1917

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG:111; American Military Activities

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Caproni Ca-3 in flight over Hampton, VA Sept. 11, 1917

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG:111; American Military Activities

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Caproni CA-3 landing at Aviation Exp. Sta, Hampton, VA Sept. 11, 1917

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Source of Photograph

This is a great shot of the Caproni Bomber sent from Italy to Hamption, VA for testing at the Army Air Corps Aviation Experiment Station in 1917.

 

This was model 4051

for which little is known

in the history of this aircraft. From Hampton it was flown by its Italian crew to Washington DC in Oct. 1917.

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Caproni bomber with gun mounted at Hampton VA Oct. 7, 1917

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG:111; American Military Activities

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Caproni Ca-3 showing gunner and gun mounts, Langley VA Oct. 7, 1917

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG:111; American Military Activities

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Caproni Ca.4 bombers at Talieod, Italy 1916

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Four Caproni Ca.4 triplane bombers of the Bristish Navy at Taliedo, Italy 1916

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Caproni I Ca, floatplane, Italy undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

Comment of Kees Kort

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The picture shows

the Caproni I

(where I stands for Idrovolante - Hydroplane / Seaplane).

 

The I is the identification of the period (1918)

but unfortunately

the Caproni factory decided in the 1930's to identify all (or most) of their built types with numbers, Ca.1 Ca.2 etc.

 

So this plane became

the Ca.47.

In the end exact identification of Caproni machines during WW1

is somewhat messed up.


The picture is one of a series of at least five which show the machine during initial tests in 1918 (not 1911).

 

Although test were successful production was never achieved due

to the ending of the war.

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Italian Float Plane I ca. undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Italian Floatplane Caproni I ca ca1911

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Royal Navy Air Service {RNAS} ordered six Caproni Ca.4 triplane bombers with serials N526 - N531 Taliedo, Italy 1916

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Caproni 3 motor bombing plane [photo received from DMA] undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

The photocard with this photograph said it was obtained from the DMA.

No other information just the photo.

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Close front view of Liberty Caproni, Mineola, NY undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Front view of Liberty Caproni, Mineola, NY undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

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Side view of Liberty Caproni at Mineola, NY undated

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Source of Photograph: National Archives RG 111

Kees Kort comments

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The actual building of the Caproni Liberty-engine bomber trimotor was actually very trying.

In a nutshell these were the bottle necks

- the Italian drawings in metrics (meters) had all to be redrawn in inch measures.

   A gigantic task which involved thousands of detail drawings
- the fitting of the Liberty engine necessitated alterations in the design which had to be worked in the drawings
- as the large experienced factories like Curtiss were full with production, the building was given to the relatively inexperienced Standard factory,

   which actually has never build airplanes of this size
- many alterations in the Caproni design were made by Standard which had to be approved by    the Italians, again slowing down the actual building
- as Standard had difficulties building the machine, work was shifted to the Fischer Body works    who could not fit the drawings in their building process

  so ....  again the drawings had to be redrawn

Actually it is a small wonder that the Caproni Liberty bomber trimotor was built at all.

Cost was probably excessive and the machine came much too late (actually after the armistice) and was never used at war.

Think about all those man making the drawings by hand, no computer assisted drawing (CAD) in those times !

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